Giuliani:Nothing Wrong With Russia Help04/22 06:11
President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani insisted there was "nothing
wrong" with the president's 2016 campaign taking information from the Russians,
as House Democrats pledged stepped-up investigations into campaign misconduct
and possible crimes of obstruction detailed in special counsel Robert Mueller's
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani insisted
there was "nothing wrong" with the president's 2016 campaign taking information
from the Russians, as House Democrats pledged stepped-up investigations into
campaign misconduct and possible crimes of obstruction detailed in special
counsel Robert Mueller's report .
Giuliani called the Trump campaign's effort to get political help from
representatives of the Russian government possibly ill-advised but not illegal.
"There's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians," Giuliani said
Sunday, referring to a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Trump's son
Donald Jr., son-in-law Jared Kushner and former Trump campaign chairman Paul
Manafort and a lawyer linked to Russia. The Trump campaign was seeking harmful
information on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
The Sunday news shows offered the latest back and forth following the
long-anticipated release on Thursday of Mueller's 448-page redacted report on
his two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential
election. Mueller found no evidence of a conspiracy between Russia and the
Trump campaign and made no decision on obstruction of justice.
Giuliani rebutted Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, who said in a statement on
Twitter Friday he was "sickened" by the findings in Mueller's report that cited
details on how the Trump campaign welcomed political dirt from Russia.
Giuliani said Romney should "stop the bull," saying that accepting negative
information about a political opponent is common. "I would have advised, just
out of excess of caution, don't do it," he said. Nevertheless, "there's no
Pressed about whether there is a something wrong about using information
stolen by foreign adversaries, Giuliani said, "It depends on the stolen
Trump, who spent the holiday weekend at his private Mar-a-Lago club in Palm
Beach, Florida, asserted in tweets Sunday that he had been fully cleared by
Mueller's report and that Democrats' continued efforts to investigate him will
prove politically costly.
"Despite No Collusion, No Obstruction, The Radical Left Democrats do not
want to go on to Legislate for the good of the people, but only to Investigate
and waste time. This is costing our Country greatly, and will cost the Dems big
time in 2020!" he tweeted.
Mueller explicitly did not exonerate Trump in the report on the question of
obstruction, citing in part Justice Department guidelines that a sitting
president shouldn't be indicted.
Not ruling out impeachment, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who chairs the House
committee that would hold impeachment hearings, said he remained puzzled why
Mueller did not bring charges of criminal conspiracy against those in the Trump
"All you have to prove for conspiracy is that they entered into a meeting of
the minds to do something wrong and had one overt act. They entered into a
meeting of the minds to attend a meeting to get stolen material on Hillary
(Clinton). They went to the meeting. That's conspiracy right there," said
Nadler said it was now up to Congress to investigate after the special
counsel said it did not establish enough evidence to bring charges of criminal
conspiracy, yet detailed 10 allegations of Trump's attempts to obstruct the
Russia investigation that left open whether Trump broke the law.
Asked whether the offenses are impeachable, Nadler told NBC, "If proven,
some of this would be impeachable, yes." He said Democrats' current focus is to
"go where the evidence leads us."
Nadler has subpoenaed the Justice Department for the full, unredacted report
and said Sunday he was adding former White House counsel Don McGahn to the list
of people he would call to testify before his committee, along with Mueller and
Attorney General William Barr. According to the special counsel's report,
McGahn was among the Trump aides who effectively halted Trump's efforts to
influence the Russia investigation, rebuffing his demand to set Mueller's
firing in motion.
Nadler has said he expects the Justice Department to comply with the
subpoena for the full report by May 1, the same day Barr is to testify before a
Senate committee and one day before Barr is to appear before Nadler's panel.
Nadler summoned Mueller to testify by May 23.
Democratic leaders are under mounting pressure from the party's rising stars
and some 2020 presidential contenders, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren of
Massachusetts and Julian Castro, a former Housing and Urban Development
secretary, to start impeachment proceedings.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is pushing for a step-by-step approach
to the House's oversight of Trump and has refused to consider impeachment
without public support, including Republicans. Pelosi is convening House
Democrats on Monday to assess next steps.
Sen. Mike Lee, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said it would be a
"mistake" for Democrats to pursue further investigations that could lead to
impeachment proceedings, arguing that the American public won't stand for it
after Mueller failed to conclude that crimes had been committed.
"It's time to move on," said Lee, R-Utah.
Giuliani said Trump's legal team was weighing whether it would release a
detailed written rebuttal to the Mueller report.
"It may become necessary, whether they go ahead with the hearings or not,
whether other issues are raised by different people --- there's probably a
point at which we'll use it. Right now we think the public debate is playing
out about as well as it can," he said.
In the redacted report, Mueller said he considered bringing charges over the
Trump Tower meeting but ultimately did not obtain admissible evidence that the
campaign officials involved knew the actions were illegal. The meeting had
raised questions about whether Trump Jr. and others violated the federal ban on
foreign contributions to American political campaigns.
"On the facts here, the government would unlikely be able to prove beyond a
reasonable doubt that the June 9 meeting participants had general knowledge
that their conduct was unlawful," the report stated. "The investigation has not
developed evidence that the participants in the meeting were familiar with the
foreign-contribution ban or the application of federal law to the relevant
Giuliani spoke on CNN's "State of the Union," ''Fox News Sunday" and NBC's
"Meet the Press." Nadler also appeared on NBC. Lee was on CBS' "Face the